Tyros 332 BC

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Cryns » So 10. Mai 2020, 12:11

Here is some pictures of what I made in february-march 2020:

A piece of fine cotton soaked in bone-glue is streched on a bag of sugar:

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The front of the sail is finished by sueing ropes both horizontal as diagonally. The joints will be covered by half rings later on.

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A layer of compound is added at its back to give it all more volume before the second piece of cotton is added at the backside of the sail.

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To make the backside cotton look like the frontside one (vaults for the crossing ropes at the front) a fake rope crossing pattern is added before the backside cotton is added.


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With both cotton layers attached to the yard, it is bend in the right shape to reproduce the influence of the wind on the textile and the wooden poles.

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The same is done with the top edge of the sail: the wind is pressing yard and sail away from each other, creating gaping holes between every joint.
Since it was not possible to put enough tension on the sail to make this appear naturally, it had to be achieved by using lots of pins instead.

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Cryns » So 10. Mai 2020, 12:53

A new half full sail and a new raised sail were made this way:

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For the raised sail, a lot of slits had to be closed and filled up with compound to enable casting and, more important, releasing the resin casts from the mould.

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Moulding and casting was done just like it was with my two large sail designs:

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One of the great advantages of making sail masters in textile instead of sculpt them with compound or putty is that the cotton texture keeps visable.
This makes it easy and succesfull to paint and still look like a canvas sail.

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CHRIS DODSON
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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von CHRIS DODSON » So 10. Mai 2020, 12:57

Hello Mr C.

I must say your imagination and creativity seems to have no limits.

Fantastic and truly inspirational modelling.

The word genius comes to mind !

Ps. The roof is repaired but I am now worrying about the others.

Best wishes,

Chris

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Wolfgang » So 10. Mai 2020, 15:04

Das ist wirklich genial gemacht. Sei es die Technik, sowie die Materialien, die du verwendest! Du bist einfach ein fantastischer Modellbauer!
Liebe Grüße, Wolle

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von stenfalk » So 10. Mai 2020, 19:47

Well, what do you want to say in the face of such results? For me personally, the admirable thing is this ability to deliver top performance not only in one area, but across the entire range of requirements. Research - world class! Create master models - world class! Create silicone molds - world class! Resin casting - world class! Prepare building instructions - world class! If you're looking for a role model, here it is.
Beste Grüße,

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Egbert » Mo 11. Mai 2020, 07:42

Wow Cryns...
Outstanding, masterclass modelling! :o
Thank you for sharing your work with us and showing us how it's possible to make something like that.
For me it's incredibly great what you're producing.
LG Egbert
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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von DirkB » Mo 11. Mai 2020, 19:47

Hello Cryns,
Thank you for the step to step guide. Very interesting. Great topic. It's not quite my era, but your implementation is masterful.

Greetings Dirk

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Cryns » Mi 3. Jun 2020, 15:02

Dear Chris, Wolle, Stenfalk, Egbert and DirkB thank you so much for the fantastic replies.


ANCIENT ROWING BOATS

I have finished the sales showmodels for my 3 new ancient rowing boats.
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These are crewed by a variety of my Greek sailors, paddlers and rowers.

The large one has two benches and space for 4 rowers plus a helmsman for the steering oar:
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A difficulty that was faced by Alex Gusev and other designers before me, was to make the rowers fit the benches.
Ancient sources mention a distance of about 1 meter between every oar/bench.
In the reality of 1:72 modelling this would be 13 mm.
But for most poses with stretched legs, stretched arms or bending forward, 13mm is too narrow.
It takes at least 15mm to make full action rower figurines fit their seats without touching the ones before them.
Here it is even more: 16mm. Thats also because many of our figurines are bigger than 1:72 scale or have the length of a modern male body.
This boat was originally designed for more than 2 rowing benches but to avoid such overcrowding-trouble I reduced it to 2 benches only.

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The color pattern on the boat is based upon nautic mosaics from 3th century Roman North Africa.

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von CHRIS DODSON » Mi 3. Jun 2020, 17:56

Mr C where does one begin?

Art in its finest form with super photography tricking the eye into reality.

May I respectfully suggest a Mediterranean evening light as a background ?

I envisage these guys off to fish as the sun begins to settle down for the night.

Brilliant work, inspirational.

Best wishes,

Chris

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Wolfgang » Mi 3. Jun 2020, 19:12

Einfach nur fantastisch!!!
Liebe Grüße, Wolle

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