Tyros 332 BC

Hartung W
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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Hartung W » Di 4. Aug 2020, 11:02

Fantastisch !!! Wunderbare weiche Farben, hervorragende Bilder !! Die Qualität des Schiffmodells und der Figuren stehen sowieso ausser Frage: Besser geht's nicht !

liebe Grüße
HartungW

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Cryns » Fr 7. Aug 2020, 11:40

Gentlemen, thank you so much for the nice replies.

This summer I constructed a new ancient Greek shipmodel from scratch.
It is based upon archaeological findings and a full size replica from France.

The GYPTIS / JULES VERNE 9 boat.

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This is an Archaic Greek sewn boat from the 6th century BC which wreck was recovered under the Jules Verne Square in Marseilles together with several other shipwrecks, presumed to be build by the second generation of Greek colonists that founded the city of Massalia (now Marseilles). The ancient Greeks brought their shipwright-techniques from Greece over to their new colonies like this one in France.

Sewing wooden planks of a boat together by using vegan fibre wire is a technique that dates back to bronze age Mediterranean cultures as well as northern European. Sewn boats are known from Egypt, Scandinavia, Greece and Britannia. During the centuries this technique was replaced by wooden mortise, peg and tennon connections, holding the planks together. The gyptis has a combination of sewing and mortise construction so is a typical transition example.

My sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RfPb_SAVco
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10. ... 9270.12294

Here is my construction-report:

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Cryns » Fr 7. Aug 2020, 11:48

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Cryns » Fr 7. Aug 2020, 11:50

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Wolfgang
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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Wolfgang » Fr 7. Aug 2020, 13:05

Das ist wieder ein wundervolles neues Projekt von dir. Es ist sehr interessant die Schritte bei der Entwicklung eines solchen Modells zu sehen. Besonders, wo ich vom Schiffsbau sehr wenig Ahnung habe.

Ich bin übrigens sehr froh zu sehen, dass nicht nur mein Arbeitstisch so aussieht! :mrgreen:
Liebe Grüße, Wolle

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von DirkB » Fr 7. Aug 2020, 13:12

Hello cryns,

thank you for the pictures of your wonderful ships. You are truly an excellent shipbuilder. Thematically, I am not very familiar with Greek antiquity. From a model maker perspective, I am very impressed with your work. This detailing and love of the model, this painting of the small rowing boats, the selected colors inspire me. And your orderliness in the workplace shows genius ... ;)

Kind regards Dirk

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von stenfalk » Sa 8. Aug 2020, 13:10

Da macht ja schon das Zuschauen Spaß! Toll, ganz ganz toll!
Beste Grüße,

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von StephB » Sa 8. Aug 2020, 15:47

A real beauty!
Did you do this project just for your own entertainment, or are there plans to cast & sell it (which, of course, is what collectors hope for)?
Since you offer already a series of large, medium and small rowing boats, this one would be the "extra large" one, I suppose. :D

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von CHRIS DODSON » So 9. Aug 2020, 07:33

Once again a masterclass in how to construct these gems.

I dare say you could build the real thing with your accumulated skills.

After the Wolfgang work table pictures it was nice to see something more reminiscent of mine.

Best wishes,

Chris

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Re: Tyros 332 BC

Beitrag von Cryns » Do 13. Aug 2020, 14:27

Wolfgang hat geschrieben:
Fr 7. Aug 2020, 13:05
Ich bin übrigens sehr froh zu sehen, dass nicht nur mein Arbeitstisch so aussieht!
DirkB hat geschrieben:
Fr 7. Aug 2020, 13:12
And your orderliness in the workplace shows genius ...
CHRIS DODSON hat geschrieben:
So 9. Aug 2020, 07:33
After the Wolfgang work table pictures it was nice to see something more reminiscent of mine.
I am glad to read all this, dear Gentlemen. I posted it because I hoped and suspected we have something in common :D
StephB hat geschrieben:
Sa 8. Aug 2020, 15:47
Did you do this project just for your own entertainment, or are there plans to cast & sell it (which, of course, is what collectors hope for)?

Not only plans dear StephB. The model is already for sale for the die hards here in this forum.
Right after building the wooden master model, I made molds and resin copies that look like this:

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I casted 8 of them to start with, here at bottom left in my stockpile.

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I developed and produce this ship as a replacement for my old 8 Oared Sailing Barge:

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That is because that Barge is not a real historical type of ship. And its master and molds are soo clumsy, old and inaccurate, its too much work reproducing it. The result is I had to drive up the price several times.

This new model is not only better but also lower in price.

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